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Multiple Troubles With Installation

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August 16, 2026 7:40 PM

I've had a real hard time with installation. I have the rakuos-cosmic-latest-amd64 image written to my external device. I have a recent Ryzen CPU. Onto the problems:

  • In the software installation wizard during the first startup after the OS installation, I am asked what I want to install. I can see the success rate of installations on the side, and several fail, which shouldn't be the case for software offered at install time.
    • Some software fails the first time, then succeeds when I go back and try again, for some reason. (Heroic Games Launcher, KVM/Qemu, Zed IDE)
    • Some software always fails, even when I go back and redo the installation process. (Zen browser, Moonlight, OBS Studio)
    • When I go back, I can go to the network setup screen even if I already set it up during the OS install by going to settings on the Live USB. If I go back in this case, the page will tell me I am not connected to a network, despite in fact being connected. Then when I try to connect (despite being connected), it will fail, claiming I have entered the wrong password, when in truth it's because I'm already connected.
    • It gets worse. During the software installation, there is a point where it asks for admin authentication. I enter it, of course. Unfortunately, it's not in time or not useful, somehow: When I look at the text log output at the bottom of that window, I find multiple apps that failed to install because "`sudo: A terminal is required to authenticate`. Going back and trying again doesn't fix these.
    • This all begs the question: What is the point of offering stuff upfront, during setup, that you fail to provide?
  • After the software wizard, I have all the apps that succeeded. After restarting, I still have all my apps. But then, Raku recommends to me the v4 instruction set for performance reasons. I take the recommendation, of course. This wipes out all the software it installed previously, requiring all of them to be reinstalled. This tedious step could be skipped if the Live USB included an option to choose which ISA we want from the start, so I could then install specifically that higher performance image. What is the point of the software wizard at all if I can't keep any of it? What a waste. At least have the decency to warn at the start "If you have a v4 compatible CPU and wish to upgrade to the appropriate image, do not install any software from this selection, as they will be wiped when you upgrade".
  • Further, you aim this distro at gamers with your use of the Cachy kernel, but as soon as I switch to v4 ISA, I can no longer install Steam. It succeeds during the software wizards (during that time we are on v2), but fails after the image upgrade that becomes available after the system update waiting in the software center.

So... What's going on with all these issues? This is very unusable from day 1, with all the unreliable installations without rhyme or reason. I can't even get to judging Raku on its performance or usability or whatnot because it botches the fundamentals of "I need to get software before I can use it".

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August 17, 2026 11:13 AM

Sad to say its dnf issues which hopefully  next day or so will be a thing of the past as we  have built our own package manger  https://rakuos.org/rum

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August 17, 2026 4:29 PM

Ah, thank you for letting me know. With luck, this will mean as soon as it's rolled out, it'll be smooth sailing. So the "next day or so" sounds like amazing timing. But any rollout has kinks... I don't know how long rum has been in testing or how many scenarios have been resolved already by its prototypes during said testing, but suffice to say I really hope that it's releasing with a solid 1.0 level of reliability. Jumping in to not even be able to install things soured me a little.

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August 17, 2026 4:55 PM

What about the Overlay installations being wasted on a switch to the v4 instruction set? Can you make the first step of the setup an automatic check and force the user to stop the setup right there if it finds a compatible CPU, so they don't waste their time installing apps that will disappear soon? Like "Let us check which version of the software you need... Your CPU is compatible with the higher performance v4 instruction set. Click the button below to update immediately with a v4 image. Your PC will restart but you will come back to this setup screen when it is done." You know? Something like that.

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August 17, 2026 5:00 PM
Krax wrote:
What about the Overlay installations being wasted on a switch to the v4 instruction set? Can you make the first step of the setup an automatic check and force the user to stop the setup right there if it finds a compatible CPU, so they don't waste their time installing apps that will disappear soon? Like "Let us check which version of the software you need... Your CPU is compatible with the higher performance v4 instruction set. Click the button below to update immediately with a v4 image. Your PC will restart but you will come back to this setup screen when it is done." You know? Something like that.

The software center  shows the notification on first boot/login

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August 17, 2026 5:02 PM

Also, the sudo failures during installation don't look like a dnf incompatibility issue either. I don't imagine switching to rum will resolve whatever logic is failing there -- but who knows I guess. Maybe it might.


And of course the confused wifi issue, but that's very very low priority.

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August 17, 2026 5:04 PM ยท edited
Krax wrote:
Also, the sudo failures during installation don't look like a dnf incompatibility issue either. I don't imagine switching to rum will resolve whatever logic is failing there -- but who knows I guess. Maybe it might.

And of course the confused wifi issue, but that's very very low priority.

it is because those scripts are calling dnf which atm dnf is  pretty messed up because of dep issues which is what rum is  fixing and has pretty much fixed on staging now

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August 17, 2026 5:15 PM
Tohur wrote:

The software center  shows the notification on first boot/login

Maybe it's just because that update was quite recent and my Live USB was burned too long ago, missing the feature. In my case, I have to do a system update before the notification even appears (and of course I'm going to deal with the software setup in front of me before I touch any system updates). So maybe it's just my bad luck that I downloaded this version of Raku at the wrong time? Since I'm waiting for the new version with rum on it, I guess it doesn't matter then. I'll be replacing this Live USB with a fresh one that's much more up to date.

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August 17, 2026 5:16 PM
Krax wrote:
Tohur wrote:The software center  shows the notification on first boot/login

Maybe it's just because that update was quite recent and my Live USB was burned too long ago, missing the feature. In my case, I have to do a system update before the notification even appears (and of course I'm going to deal with the software setup in front of me before I touch any system updates). So maybe it's just my bad luck that I downloaded this version of Raku at the wrong time? Since I'm waiting for the new version with rum on it, I guess it doesn't matter then. I'll be replacing this Live USB with a fresh one that's much more up to date.

Yes V2 (default) v3 and v4 are recent additions on  new  isos  it  alerts you on first login

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August 18, 2026 8:02 AM

Hmm, lots of things going on....I'm also testing it and running into very similar issues and personal opinions (mine).

I know IT people hate writing documentation, but a design document in the FAQ explaining the methodology of how the overlaying works would be much appreciated.

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